Moments when a piece of entertainment completely lost you.

Neeeek · Post by **Neeeek** » Fri Aug 07, 2009 5:11 am

I solve this problem by dating women who don't live with, or really anywhere near their parents.

Hell, the last father I met was being extra respectful of me, because I was getting him and his wife backstage passes to a concert.

Crissa · Post by **Crissa** » Fri Aug 07, 2009 5:17 am

Well, doesn't stop you from running into the parental at some point. Sammi's parents like me, my parents like her... It works out well, 'cept I like her parents more than she does and vice versa. Alas.

-Crissa

Draco_Argentum · Post by **Draco_Argentum** » Fri Aug 07, 2009 7:55 am

Koumei wrote:And I'm not exactly sure what you want, if you dislike a system where X has to impress Y so that Y will consent to sex with X. Would you prefer X to declare "I think I will have sex with you" and Y has to shut up and take it?

You got the chromosomes around the wrong way.

It'd be better if Y had to impress X. Exactly why the tools who gave women all the crap jobs didn't lump asking for dates along with it is beyond me.

Koumei · Post by **Koumei** » Fri Aug 07, 2009 8:02 am

I meant X and Y in mathematic terms of X = someone, Y = someone else. I wasn't talking in chromosomes. Mainly because I couldn't remember which was XX and which was XY.

PhoneLobster · Post by **PhoneLobster** » Fri Aug 07, 2009 8:07 am

Draco_Argentum wrote:Exactly why the tools who gave women all the crap jobs didn't lump asking for dates along with it is beyond me.

I already work a crap womens wage type job.

It should entitle me to a free being asked out credit scheme.

Damnit.

Maxus · Post by **Maxus** » Fri Aug 07, 2009 8:19 am

Oh, yeah. I have another one to contribute:

The TV show Ghost Whisperer.

I don't know how far it's spread, so for the non-U.S. section of the Den, I'll explain.

It centers around a woman. Who can see and talk to ghosts. It apparently runs in her family. And she chooses to use the ability to help ghosts pass on (who stay for a variety of reasons--can't make peace, have something important they want to do, whatever.)

Sometimes they can get nasty. And to be able to help them, she has to understand their problems.

Sometimes it's just sappy, sometimes it's genuinely scary (like the one with Bloody Mary).

And then...It jumped the shark.

Spoiler coming--sorta.

Okay, the woman had a husband/boyfriend. He got shot and died. And he hung around as a ghost for a few weeks to say his good-byes and all that. Should have been a set-up for a touching scene where he makes his peace and goes into the light or whatever.

Except he didn't do that. He was waiting around for someone to die without being too banged up. And, finally, it happened. A man died in a car crash. He vacated his body and moved on. Hubby jumped into the body--and the body woke up.

And even though this guy doesn't have any of his memories now, the old personality is reasserting itself.

And, let's be clear, this woman has put herself through emotional hell and no small amount of physical danger, all in the name that spirits must move on. Hanging around after you die only causes problems.

There is no single act I could think of that would be more against everything she's worked at for years. She should have vomited in revulsion and then picked up a piece of broken glass and shivved him.

But, no, she's awestruck, and her normal friends all eventually accept the truth: She has another chance with her One True Luv, and not a single person calls out the inconsistency.

If there were any justice in media, the Dahaka from PoP: Warrior Within would show up and flatten the guy.

Lago PARANOIA · Post by **Lago PARANOIA** » Fri Aug 07, 2009 9:03 am

That sort of reminds me about the episodes of Kathryn Janeway's holographic boyfriend, whom she was prepared to risk the ship to save.

RandomCasualty2 · Post by **RandomCasualty2** » Fri Aug 07, 2009 6:14 pm

Koumei wrote: And I'm not exactly sure what you want, if you dislike a system where X has to impress Y so that Y will consent to sex with X. Would you prefer X to declare "I think I will have sex with you" and Y has to shut up and take it?

Only if I can be on the declaring side

Crissa · Post by **Crissa** » Fri Aug 07, 2009 10:30 pm

We call that, 'rape', and it's not legal for a reason, RC.

-Crissa

Koumei · Post by **Koumei** » Sat Aug 08, 2009 6:57 am

I like to make fun of Crissa for a variety of reasons (chief amongst them being: it's funny), but she's right on this point. It is frowned upon in some cultures. I was actually throwing a half-hearted slipperyslope/strawman insult at Count by implying he thinks rape is the way to go, when he didn't say that.

That being said, the grin suggests RC was joking.

TOZ · Post by **TOZ** » Sat Aug 08, 2009 7:01 am

I actually finally saw Batman Returns during last nights shift. It was playing over the network and I had nothing else to look at.

I'm not sure when it really got to me. I know the penguin army was when I really gave up. I think the targetted batarang was where it got me. And then the funeral progression for the Penguin.

So yeah. Old movie I never watched, kind of wish I hadn't seen it now.

Lago PARANOIA · Post by **Lago PARANOIA** » Sat Aug 08, 2009 7:13 am

I love Agony Booth, but every time I read the associated forum thread for a movie and see anything posted by Albert I die a little bit inside.

TavishArtair · Post by **TavishArtair** » Sat Aug 08, 2009 10:55 am

The grin could also suggest, Koumei, "I like the thought of that." To wit, the real reason certain topics are off-limits for joking is so that you don't look like an asshole when you make the joke, as it requires more flair and panache than most people have.

Batman Returns was awesome and sexy with its Selina Kyle, and hilarious with its Penguin. I watched it as a kid, it's great. Ultimately, like any comic book, it will disappoint you if you take it too seriously.

Lago PARANOIA · Post by **Lago PARANOIA** » Sat Aug 08, 2009 8:48 pm

So. Goldstein's Book. Nineteen Eighty Four.

To me, that was the best part of the entire fuckin novel. While the first and third acts are equally good, Goldstein's Book is one of the best things I have ever had the pleasure of reading.

But everyone else I have talked to really, really hated that part, even if they enjoyed the rest of the book. I mean, I know the entire book is basically George Orwell's thinly-veiled case for democratic socialism but I can't be the only person who found the digression fascinating.

Crissa · Post by **Crissa** » Sun Aug 09, 2009 12:50 am

You know what? I'm fucking done with these stupid white kid power fantasies. It's fucking up our movies.

So many of these movies coming out today - like Transformers - are about some white kid (it's somehow important that he's white) is born to do something, but is otherwise unremarkable. Does nothing useful throughout his life until the story, then throughout the entire movie or story - and in fact, the story might be better without him in it.

And what's worse is like - in Transformers - the kid power fantasy has nothing to do with the real plot of the movie. That he exists, maybe, but most of the film wasted on him? Nope. The end of the movie is either decided by the hand of the writer or it was never really in question.

I got Wanted today, and the movie was awesome except for this stupid kid.

ARGH.

I'm gonna hafta swear off western movies if this keeps happening.

-Crissa

violence in the media · Sun Aug 09, 2009 6:16 am

The hell?

Ok, I haven't seen the entirety of Transformers, but I can't recall anything in there stressing importance about Sam being white. Same thing with Wesley in Wanted. I mean, yeah, the characters and actors are white, but so what? Would either of those movie plots be more acceptable, assuming nothing else were changed, if those parts were played by John Leguziamo and will Smith?

Count Arioch the 28th · Sun Aug 09, 2009 7:22 am

Koumei wrote:...I don't think that's what Crissa is saying.

And I'm not exactly sure what you want, if you dislike a system where X has to impress Y so that Y will consent to sex with X. Would you prefer X to declare "I think I will have sex with you" and Y has to shut up and take it?

That's how my ex was. If she wanted it and I didn't, she threw a fit. Then again, I don't think I ever asked her for sex once when she said yes. I'm glad that I've had at least one decent romantic encounter since then, even though I'm tired of putting up with her shit I do now know that I can in fact have a positive experience in a romantic situation.

Count Arioch the 28th · Sun Aug 09, 2009 7:24 am

Koumei wrote:I like to make fun of Crissa for a variety of reasons (chief amongst them being: it's funny), but she's right on this point. It is frowned upon in some cultures. I was actually throwing a half-hearted slipperyslope/strawman insult at Count by implying he thinks rape is the way to go, when he didn't say that.

That being said, the grin suggests RC was joking.

If I was a chick, I'd totally be into you.

Koumei · Post by **Koumei** » Sun Aug 09, 2009 10:19 am

Because I could tell when someone was joking and out-and-out said "This comment here is a strawman, designed to poke fun at you!" (thus reducing the effectiveness, of course) or because I make fun of Crissa?

Count Arioch the 28th · Sun Aug 09, 2009 10:28 am

Koumei wrote:Because I could tell when someone was joking and out-and-out said "This comment here is a strawman, designed to poke fun at you!" (thus reducing the effectiveness, of course) or because I make fun of Crissa?

A little of both. Unfortunately for you, I have the wrong genitals.

RandomCasualty2 · Post by **RandomCasualty2** » Sun Aug 09, 2009 6:43 pm

Count_Arioch_the_28th wrote:
Koumei wrote:I like to make fun of Crissa for a variety of reasons (chief amongst them being: it's funny), but she's right on this point. It is frowned upon in some cultures. I was actually throwing a half-hearted slipperyslope/strawman insult at Count by implying he thinks rape is the way to go, when he didn't say that.

That being said, the grin suggests RC was joking.
If I was a chick, I'd totally be into you.

Well I figure you'd probably be into her regardless, she just kinda wouldn't be into you.

I know a lot of lesbians that have awesome personalities. Just makes you wish you could find one who was into guys. Well... until you realize that it's impossible by definition.

Cielingcat · Post by **Cielingcat** » Sun Aug 09, 2009 7:58 pm

Count_Arioch_the_28th wrote:
Koumei wrote:Because I could tell when someone was joking and out-and-out said "This comment here is a strawman, designed to poke fun at you!" (thus reducing the effectiveness, of course) or because I make fun of Crissa?
A little of both. Unfortunately for you, I have the wrong genitals.

With a lot of work, that can be fixed.

Count Arioch the 28th · Mon Aug 10, 2009 1:22 am

I'll pass. I am all for anyone changing their body however they please, but my cock is a masterpiece. Getting rid of it would be like slapping God in the face. Possible with my severed penis. My penis stays where it is.

Lago PARANOIA · Post by **Lago PARANOIA** » Mon Aug 10, 2009 1:40 am

This conversation is getting Freudian and creepy. Can we talk about something other than weird gender fetishism, like... like... how The Shield's suck factor kind of took us by surprise?

PhoneLobster · Post by **PhoneLobster** » Mon Aug 10, 2009 3:50 am

You were surprised?